It’s OK to discriminate against Asians (for high school admissions)

When is a minority not a minority?

NEW YORK, NY – Last year, the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund filed a civil rights lawsuit with the federal government to eliminate testing as the sole basis for admissions to top public schools in New York City, such as Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech and Stuyvesant, since it discriminated against ethnic minorities. They argued that factors such as school grades, teacher recommendations and personal experience be taken into account, which would make the admissions process similar to university admissions. However, the majority of students admitted to these top NYC public schools are ethnic minorities. They’re Asians.

According to the New York Times, approximately 59% of the students enrolled in the eight specialized high schools are Asian. In 1971, the Stuyvesant High School student body was 10% Black, 4% Hispanic, and 6% Asian with the rest being White but is 72% Asian and around 4% percent are Black or Hispanic in 2012. Based on concerns about the lack of test preparation from minority groups, the city initially offered a free test-prep program to Black and Hispanic students and later to all students. However, it was still an issue because the majority of students enrolled in the public test program are Asians.

The Times article exploring this controversy spent considerable time profiling the Asian students who were accepted into the top NYC high schools. One account was about a son of Chinese immigrants who often sacrificed weekends studying for the high school entrance exam. He rarely saw his parents because they worked long shifts.

Other Asian students profiled came from families that either lived in Third World conditions or emigrated from countries experiencing violence. These families managed to pool their limited resources to ensure their kids had the time and money needed to do well in school and pass the high school entrance exam.

Although the writer made efforts to show these students made sacrifices and worked hard to be in these schools, he also made a point of emphasizing their “foreignness”. In the same article, the writer quoted Jerome Krase, a professor emeritus in sociology at Brooklyn College, suggesting Asian students are culturally obligated to do well since “[They] hold the honor of the family in their hands“, which implies they are different from Americans.

Moreover, the interviews with non-Asian parents were critical of the current admissions process. One parent agreed with expanding admissions to consider more than just the entrance exam results while another parent felt that it was abnormal for students to sacrifice weekends just to prepare for the entrance exam. Despite these criticisms, both parents have children who are preparing for the entrance exam.

While it is true that Asians make up the majority of students in the top specialized high schools in New York City, other groups such as Blacks, Hispanics and Whites also successfully passed the tests. Instead of just profiling Asian students and emphasizing their ‘foreignness’ and their family’s limited links to American culture, the writer should have also profiled Black and Hispanic students who successfully passed the exam to show that success is not limited to Asians.

Interviewing parents of successful Black or Hispanic students would give readers ideas of how non-Asian parents and their children worked around their respective challenges to succeed since they might be more relatable to readers than the Asian students and families profiled in the article. As a result, the article appears to perpetuate the idea that Asians are undermining the perceived character of New York City’s top public schools and unintentionally promoting tensions with other ethnic groups in the city due to their “foreign values”.

Another area the writer should have explored is the root cause for test prep programs.

It is strange that students have to enroll in test preparation programs to prepare for a high school admission exam that supposedly tests students on items they should have learned in the city’s primary and middle schools. If the primary and middle public schools are properly teaching their students, then there should not be a disparity between students enrolled in test prep programs and those that are not since the exam is based on things they should have learned in school.

Sadly, these disparities suggest there is an issue with the quality of public school education in the city, not of the race of students in the city’s top high schools.

The NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund believes that changing the current admissions process into a holistic process would solve the problems with the current system that allegedly gives wealthier families an advantage due to their abilities to get better test preparation.  However, this change would actually harm many poor immigrant Asian families and may not necessarily help the intended Black or Hispanic students in high school admissions.

If the city switches to a holistic approach, wealthier parents would still find ways to ensure their children have the means to join extracurricular activities, enroll in better primary or middle schools for improved grades, hire admissions counselors to develop strong admissions essays, and still send their children to test preparation programs. The less well-off, regardless if they are Black, Hispanic and Asian would still be at a disadvantage in the admissions process just like for university admissions. Most of all, in the midst of this controversy, the status quo for many wealthy families and their children would still be preserved.

20 comments

Papi November 3, 2013 at 5:01 pm

“Interviewing parents of successful Black or Hispanic students would give readers ideas of how non-Asian parents and their children worked around their respective challenges” and would have dismissed those families as not black or latino enough or trying to be too white.

maggie9876 November 3, 2013 at 5:02 pm

Inho, I feel that a lot of it is upbringing. You have to show your kids that school is important. You also have to be a reader yourself, & read things that you can learn from. That show your children that you yourself value learning.

Sarah-Kate Glenn November 3, 2013 at 5:38 pm

“That Asian kid studied more than my kid, and they passed the test and my kid didn’t! That’s discrimination!” Really people? Are you fucking serious?

ExactDerp November 4, 2013 at 1:49 am

‘murica!

mplspolitics November 4, 2013 at 9:48 pm

What is your photo from?

ExactDerp November 6, 2013 at 6:07 am

Change we can believe in!

tim November 3, 2013 at 5:46 pm

Being prepared for life and actually spending your youth engaged in learning is “foreign” nowadays to many Americans. We’ve had the last 50 years of “educators” weeding out the concepts of hard work, achievement, excellence, etc. It so happens, they haven’t been able to erode those qualities yet in recent immigrants. Recent immigrants haven’t been here long enough to become indoctrinated with the culture and policies of failure.

Benja Sophon Sariwatta November 3, 2013 at 10:04 pm

distasteful

Walker McGraw Bragman November 4, 2013 at 1:01 am

Where are the sources for any of these claims?

ExactDerp November 4, 2013 at 1:48 am

I saw links embedded on the blog…

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/education/a-grueling-admissions-test-highlights-a-racial-divide.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2

Maybe you also support changing the admissions process too?

ExactDerp November 4, 2013 at 2:19 am

From the italics

Walker McGraw Bragman November 4, 2013 at 4:03 am

Saying “The NYT said….” doesn’t count as sourcing. I want exact articles, article titles, authors, and dates–but hyperlinks would solve everything. This article makes claims, but doesn’t back them up.

ExactDerp November 4, 2013 at 5:27 am

Check the New York City demographics for the top 8 specialised high schools. You can call up the writer of the NYT article in question if you really want his sources. His contact information is on the article URL.

Auntie_Social November 4, 2013 at 1:04 am

This has been going on in California for a long time now. Asian kids work harder, and get better grades than any other ethnicity, in general. That’s not FAIR. The whole idea is to reduce expectations and therefore, results. So that the chosen ethnicities won’t feel bad about themselves.
It doesn’t work. A dumbass knows deep down he’s a dumbass. And the cream of the crop WILL rise, regardless of political correctness.

Takeo Mori November 4, 2013 at 11:12 am

Seriously. Affirmative action is basically to limit Asians into top schools.

3A5UC November 4, 2013 at 4:55 am

I find it amusing that people immediately jump to bashing blacks and hispanics when the biggest beneficiaries of keeping asians out are….you guessed it: white people!

ExactDerp November 4, 2013 at 5:28 am

It’s actually everyone vs Asians but good try

Walker McGraw Bragman November 4, 2013 at 2:41 pm

It is not discriminatory to ask to factor in things like grades, extracurricular activities, teacher recommendations, etc. in school admissions—that’s how colleges handle their admission processes. Does the author of this piece then think that college admissions discriminate against Asians? Does anyone here actually believe that?

ExactDerp November 5, 2013 at 4:27 am

Apparently there is hard data that suggests it is worse for college admissions – http://blog.priceonomics.com/post/48794283011/do-elite-colleges-discriminate-against-asians

Jerry Krase November 4, 2013 at 3:29 pm

this on-going ‘debate’ about why asian kids do better in school than non asian kids is getting more and more like the ‘telephone game’ where a story goes around and around until it no longer resembles the initial statements. i was asked why, it appears, that the children of recent chinese (and korean) immigrants do well in school. whether asian or not, children who are positively or negatively motivated to do well, tend to do so. then fill-in-the-cultural-blanks and stop implying that people with whom you disagree are biased. next question will be why ‘fill-in-the-blanks’ do better than ‘non-fill-in-the-blanks’ in some other ‘fill-in-the-blanks.’

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